1 00:00:09,110 --> 00:00:06,680 after doing everyone this is our 2 00:00:12,740 --> 00:00:09,120 briefing to help us answer the question 3 00:00:15,259 --> 00:00:12,750 what do we know about Mars and here to 4 00:00:18,010 --> 00:00:15,269 help answer that question is Michael 5 00:00:22,810 --> 00:00:18,020 Meyer the lead scientist for the Mars 6 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:22,820 exploration program Bethany Elmen 7 00:00:27,259 --> 00:00:24,810 scientists from the Jet Propulsion 8 00:00:29,410 --> 00:00:27,269 Laboratory assistant professor at the 9 00:00:32,630 --> 00:00:29,420 California Institute of Technology 10 00:00:34,340 --> 00:00:32,640 and John grotzinger the project 11 00:00:37,370 --> 00:00:34,350 scientists from Mars laboratory at the 12 00:00:39,110 --> 00:00:37,380 California Institute of Technology and 13 00:00:41,540 --> 00:00:39,120 we'll begin first with Michael Meyer 14 00:00:43,430 --> 00:00:41,550 Michael thank you George 15 00:00:45,260 --> 00:00:43,440 for millennia humans have been wondering 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:45,270 about the red planet and studying it and 17 00:00:50,779 --> 00:00:47,250 it's only recently that we've actually 18 00:00:52,340 --> 00:00:50,789 be able to go there and look in 1976 we 19 00:00:54,439 --> 00:00:52,350 sent two missions there the Viking 20 00:00:56,660 --> 00:00:54,449 missions both were orbiter and Lander 21 00:00:59,740 --> 00:00:56,670 and we set them to the Red Planet if I 22 00:01:03,860 --> 00:00:59,750 can have the first slide please 23 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:03,870 so Viking landed and this is from Viking 24 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:09,290 2 and it shows a cold barren dry 25 00:01:15,020 --> 00:01:13,170 apparently dead planet and as you might 26 00:01:18,789 --> 00:01:15,030 imagine the enthusiasm for Mars 27 00:01:21,530 --> 00:01:18,799 exploration and kind of took a plummet 28 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:21,540 but interestingly enough during the same 29 00:01:29,510 --> 00:01:24,570 period of time we found in the 30 00:01:33,050 --> 00:01:29,520 subsurface ocean life in scalding hot 31 00:01:34,670 --> 00:01:33,060 hydrothermal vents and that started a 32 00:01:36,620 --> 00:01:34,680 whole line of study looking at life in 33 00:01:38,990 --> 00:01:36,630 extreme environments and through that 34 00:01:41,420 --> 00:01:39,000 study we came to learn that life is 35 00:01:43,700 --> 00:01:41,430 capable of adapting to all sorts of 36 00:01:45,830 --> 00:01:43,710 environments where it seemed like the 37 00:01:48,830 --> 00:01:45,840 only real necessary ingredient would be 38 00:01:50,210 --> 00:01:48,840 liquid water this was encouraging to the 39 00:01:52,550 --> 00:01:50,220 broad scientific community and 40 00:01:54,649 --> 00:01:52,560 understanding that there may be more 41 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:54,659 places where life is possible than we 42 00:01:59,840 --> 00:01:55,850 originally thought 43 00:02:02,209 --> 00:01:59,850 so we began the error a modern era of 44 00:02:05,030 --> 00:02:02,219 Mars exploration so in nineteen two 45 00:02:07,399 --> 00:02:05,040 decades later in 1996 we sent the Mars 46 00:02:12,199 --> 00:02:07,409 Global Surveyor could I show the next 47 00:02:13,730 --> 00:02:12,209 slide and what this slide shows is the 48 00:02:16,340 --> 00:02:13,740 missions that we've had 49 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:16,350 to Mars since Mars Global Surveyor and 50 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:18,570 with that we've had orbiters and Landers 51 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:21,810 and with each successive mission we've 52 00:02:26,150 --> 00:02:23,850 been all to increase the spectral and 53 00:02:27,890 --> 00:02:26,160 spatial resolution of art look at the 54 00:02:30,050 --> 00:02:27,900 Red Planet and we learned so much more 55 00:02:31,910 --> 00:02:30,060 we've learned that Mars is a dynamic 56 00:02:35,390 --> 00:02:31,920 planet we've learned that it has a 57 00:02:37,100 --> 00:02:35,400 history where it was warm and wet at the 58 00:02:39,500 --> 00:02:37,110 same time that life started here on 59 00:02:41,990 --> 00:02:39,510 earth and we know that it's gone through 60 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:42,000 a massive transition from that more 61 00:02:48,140 --> 00:02:45,090 benign planet of early on to what it is 62 00:02:50,570 --> 00:02:48,150 today and so we're actually here to give 63 00:02:53,300 --> 00:02:50,580 you a rundown on some of the things that 64 00:02:55,670 --> 00:02:53,310 we've learned in the last 10-15 years 65 00:02:58,100 --> 00:02:55,680 about the red planet that encouraged us 66 00:03:00,590 --> 00:02:58,110 to think that Mars is worth exploring 67 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:00,600 for many different reasons including the 68 00:03:04,210 --> 00:03:02,850 potential of having been habitable at 69 00:03:07,130 --> 00:03:04,220 least in its past 70 00:03:09,830 --> 00:03:07,140 George thank you Michael and now to 71 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:09,840 Bethany Elmen the scientists from the 72 00:03:13,310 --> 00:03:11,730 Jet Propulsion Laboratory and assistant 73 00:03:14,390 --> 00:03:13,320 professor from the California Institute 74 00:03:18,290 --> 00:03:14,400 of Technology 75 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:18,300 Bethany so so I have the privilege of 76 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:19,530 talking to you about some of the 77 00:03:24,110 --> 00:03:21,810 discoveries from this flotilla of 78 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:24,120 missions that we've sent to Mars over 79 00:03:27,830 --> 00:03:26,370 the past decade and if we can start with 80 00:03:29,690 --> 00:03:27,840 the first graphic I mean I'm gonna begin 81 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:29,700 the story with what we know about Mars 82 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:33,090 as it is today so these are these are 83 00:03:37,670 --> 00:03:34,410 the top highlights of what we know about 84 00:03:39,770 --> 00:03:37,680 Mars today and so Mars today on this 85 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:39,780 graphic is is what you see in the top 86 00:03:46,940 --> 00:03:43,290 left of this picture Mars like Earth is 87 00:03:48,980 --> 00:03:46,950 tilted on its axis and as it's spinning 88 00:03:51,050 --> 00:03:48,990 like a top so as Mars has seasons you 89 00:03:55,250 --> 00:03:51,060 can see the two polar ice caps at the 90 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:55,260 north and south of Mars but Mars unlike 91 00:03:59,750 --> 00:03:58,050 Earth is not stable around around it 92 00:04:03,350 --> 00:03:59,760 spinning axis so what happens is that 93 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:03,360 Mars is axis tilts okay and what we 94 00:04:06,530 --> 00:04:05,010 found through a combination of modeling 95 00:04:08,570 --> 00:04:06,540 and observations of the surface is that 96 00:04:10,910 --> 00:04:08,580 this results in in ice ages on 97 00:04:12,830 --> 00:04:10,920 modern-day Mars you can see that when 98 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:12,840 Mars is tilted more extremely than it is 99 00:04:15,380 --> 00:04:13,170 today 100 00:04:17,479 --> 00:04:15,390 ice builds up around the equator when 101 00:04:20,630 --> 00:04:17,489 Mars sort of straightens out along its 102 00:04:22,490 --> 00:04:20,640 axis the poles grow in size so the this 103 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:22,500 changing distribution of ice is one of 104 00:04:25,700 --> 00:04:24,210 the emerging stories that's come out of 105 00:04:27,290 --> 00:04:25,710 come out of the work of the recent 106 00:04:30,110 --> 00:04:27,300 decades and if we go to the next 107 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:30,120 slide we see evidence of this the 108 00:04:33,110 --> 00:04:31,530 high-rise camera on the Mars 109 00:04:34,369 --> 00:04:33,120 Reconnaissance Orbiter it's able to 110 00:04:36,649 --> 00:04:34,379 examine the surface at very high 111 00:04:38,749 --> 00:04:36,659 resolution what we found is that that 112 00:04:42,290 --> 00:04:38,759 impact craters that impact into the mid 113 00:04:44,659 --> 00:04:42,300 latitudes of Mars have excavated ice 114 00:04:45,980 --> 00:04:44,669 from beneath the surface and that's what 115 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:45,990 you see in this image here ice 116 00:04:50,270 --> 00:04:48,330 associated with these small craters now 117 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:50,280 this ice isn't isn't stable at the 118 00:04:55,070 --> 00:04:52,650 surface it's a relict of these of these 119 00:04:57,020 --> 00:04:55,080 paths tilts and changes in Mars as 120 00:04:58,520 --> 00:04:57,030 obliquity and so if we look back at this 121 00:05:00,170 --> 00:04:58,530 on the order of a few weeks in a few 122 00:05:03,290 --> 00:05:00,180 months at the same spot the ice is gone 123 00:05:05,930 --> 00:05:03,300 but it but it's a hint at past climate 124 00:05:08,930 --> 00:05:05,940 change if we head to the next graphic 125 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:08,940 the other hint of this changing dynamic 126 00:05:14,180 --> 00:05:11,849 modern Mars is is in this recent 127 00:05:18,529 --> 00:05:14,190 discovery where you can see from right 128 00:05:21,439 --> 00:05:18,539 to left these dark streaks emanating 129 00:05:25,100 --> 00:05:21,449 from the walls of a crater these these 130 00:05:27,140 --> 00:05:25,110 streaks were recently in a recent paper 131 00:05:28,909 --> 00:05:27,150 by Alfred McEwen at all the best 132 00:05:31,809 --> 00:05:28,919 hypothesis we have to explain those 133 00:05:34,519 --> 00:05:31,819 streaks is that they're formed by 134 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:34,529 short-term discharge of briny waters 135 00:05:39,409 --> 00:05:36,690 when when modern-day mars heats up 136 00:05:41,180 --> 00:05:39,419 during the summer for a brief period in 137 00:05:43,610 --> 00:05:41,190 time is ephemeral quick period of time 138 00:05:46,010 --> 00:05:43,620 we may in fact have salty waters on Mars 139 00:05:48,019 --> 00:05:46,020 so if we go to the next graphic I've 140 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:48,029 talked to you about modern Mars the 141 00:05:53,809 --> 00:05:51,330 story of ice very very very short term 142 00:05:56,330 --> 00:05:53,819 rare water but if we look at ancient 143 00:05:58,850 --> 00:05:56,340 Mars this is a topographic map where red 144 00:06:00,350 --> 00:05:58,860 is high elevations blue is low 145 00:06:02,330 --> 00:06:00,360 elevations we're looking at the Mars 146 00:06:04,820 --> 00:06:02,340 globe and I've oriented it so that you 147 00:06:07,779 --> 00:06:04,830 can see Mars has these enormous outflow 148 00:06:10,999 --> 00:06:07,789 channels and valleys that that flow out 149 00:06:12,830 --> 00:06:11,009 where water previously flowed out into 150 00:06:15,950 --> 00:06:12,840 the northern lowlands that's that blue 151 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:15,960 low depression toward the toward the 152 00:06:23,510 --> 00:06:18,810 left-hand side of the screen so liquid 153 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:23,520 water was not short-term in the past we 154 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:26,250 know that it carved had had a role in 155 00:06:30,619 --> 00:06:28,289 carving out these large channels if we 156 00:06:33,230 --> 00:06:30,629 head to the next graphic it also had a 157 00:06:35,689 --> 00:06:33,240 role in depositing sediments within 158 00:06:37,339 --> 00:06:35,699 craters now this isn't this is a an 159 00:06:38,510 --> 00:06:37,349 image that's a combination of some of 160 00:06:40,130 --> 00:06:38,520 the datasets from the Mars 161 00:06:41,870 --> 00:06:40,140 Reconnaissance Orbiter 162 00:06:44,030 --> 00:06:41,880 the high-resolution camera the context 163 00:06:46,250 --> 00:06:44,040 imager and an overlay nur our colors 164 00:06:48,770 --> 00:06:46,260 from the from the chrism infrared 165 00:06:52,370 --> 00:06:48,780 spectrometer and these colors along with 166 00:06:54,650 --> 00:06:52,380 the the spectra from pixels in this 167 00:06:57,020 --> 00:06:54,660 image allow us to get at the composition 168 00:06:59,690 --> 00:06:57,030 of these sedimentary materials that were 169 00:07:02,390 --> 00:06:59,700 carried by the water and now the key the 170 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:02,400 key color here is the green because the 171 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:04,650 green materials have been identified as 172 00:07:10,550 --> 00:07:07,050 clays and carbonates now these are 173 00:07:12,740 --> 00:07:10,560 minerals that form in the presence of 174 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:12,750 liquid water in the clays in particular 175 00:07:18,470 --> 00:07:16,170 indicate the long-term presence of water 176 00:07:20,810 --> 00:07:18,480 interacting with the rocks causing 177 00:07:23,830 --> 00:07:20,820 alteration of minerals clay minerals 178 00:07:27,230 --> 00:07:23,840 also have water in their structure and 179 00:07:29,470 --> 00:07:27,240 if we go to the next graphic we see 180 00:07:32,030 --> 00:07:29,480 these clay minerals and and other 181 00:07:35,150 --> 00:07:32,040 hydrated minerals so minerals with water 182 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:35,160 in the structure in different geological 183 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:36,690 settings throughout the planet this is 184 00:07:40,610 --> 00:07:38,970 just another example that we're able to 185 00:07:42,170 --> 00:07:40,620 get at now with this high spatial and 186 00:07:45,050 --> 00:07:42,180 spectral resolution of Mars where we can 187 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:45,060 pick out in in the walls of this crater 188 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:46,410 kind of like that the pages in a book 189 00:07:50,900 --> 00:07:48,450 two different pages in Mars history 190 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:50,910 where we're early in Mars history we had 191 00:07:55,370 --> 00:07:53,370 an alteration that process that formed 192 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:55,380 iron magnesium clays maybe not so much 193 00:07:59,180 --> 00:07:57,570 water flushing through possibly in the 194 00:08:02,030 --> 00:07:59,190 subsurface but on the top we have this 195 00:08:03,740 --> 00:08:02,040 this this this unit with a higher degree 196 00:08:06,260 --> 00:08:03,750 of leaching forming aluminium cave 197 00:08:08,510 --> 00:08:06,270 aluminum clay so two distinct periods in 198 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:08,520 Mars history recorded in these strata if 199 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:10,650 we go to the next I'm just gonna provide 200 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:13,290 another example because here we go from 201 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:16,050 clay minerals clay minerals formed from 202 00:08:21,740 --> 00:08:18,570 long-term chemical interaction of water 203 00:08:25,550 --> 00:08:21,750 with rock and there the green color now 204 00:08:28,190 --> 00:08:25,560 the pink color is our sulfate minerals I 205 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:28,200 did again salt minerals identified 206 00:08:33,910 --> 00:08:30,690 through spectroscopy now so this is just 207 00:08:38,210 --> 00:08:33,920 a subset a small snapshot from from a 208 00:08:40,490 --> 00:08:38,220 crater that's over a hundred miles in in 209 00:08:42,740 --> 00:08:40,500 diameter and what we see when we look 210 00:08:45,950 --> 00:08:42,750 around that crater is this bathtub ring 211 00:08:48,530 --> 00:08:45,960 of salts so in this crater it was once 212 00:08:50,870 --> 00:08:48,540 filled with water and upon evaporation 213 00:08:53,270 --> 00:08:50,880 deposited these sulfates sort of ringing 214 00:08:53,510 --> 00:08:53,280 around afterwards what does this all 215 00:08:54,020 --> 00:08:53,520 mean 216 00:08:56,090 --> 00:08:54,030 so if you 217 00:08:58,430 --> 00:08:56,100 the next graphic what we think this 218 00:09:01,700 --> 00:08:58,440 means is that we we can trace a 219 00:09:05,770 --> 00:09:01,710 progression in Mars history through both 220 00:09:08,090 --> 00:09:05,780 minerals and by careful examination of 221 00:09:10,940 --> 00:09:08,100 rock strata and a few key locations 222 00:09:14,180 --> 00:09:10,950 across the planet now on the bottom our 223 00:09:15,530 --> 00:09:14,190 new okyun Hesperian Amazonian they'll 224 00:09:17,060 --> 00:09:15,540 name their names you'll hear over the 225 00:09:18,980 --> 00:09:17,070 course of other press briefings which 226 00:09:20,810 --> 00:09:18,990 are the traditional divisions in Mars 227 00:09:23,500 --> 00:09:20,820 time what we think we see as we move 228 00:09:25,850 --> 00:09:23,510 toward from the noachian is this clay 229 00:09:28,220 --> 00:09:25,860 you're aware there was abundant water 230 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:28,230 chemically interacting with rocks we 231 00:09:32,420 --> 00:09:29,850 move that and then into a drying period 232 00:09:35,210 --> 00:09:32,430 where you get sulfate salts deposited as 233 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:35,220 the water begins to go away at the 234 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:38,010 surface and then you're in cold modern 235 00:09:41,810 --> 00:09:40,410 Mars where ice is the story not liquid 236 00:09:44,180 --> 00:09:41,820 water so there's this fundamental 237 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:44,190 transition between the noachian and the 238 00:09:48,830 --> 00:09:46,530 Amazonian between the area of era of 239 00:09:51,140 --> 00:09:48,840 clays to the area of sulfates to the 240 00:09:52,790 --> 00:09:51,150 area era of anhydrous minerals where 241 00:09:54,830 --> 00:09:52,800 water doesn't appear to play a role and 242 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:54,840 it's that critical period that's spanned 243 00:09:59,000 --> 00:09:56,730 by the by the sediments at Gale Crater 244 00:10:03,320 --> 00:09:59,010 we want to understand those transitions 245 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:03,330 so that's why we're headed there thank 246 00:10:09,650 --> 00:10:07,130 you very much and our next briefer is 247 00:10:11,420 --> 00:10:09,660 John grotzinger the project scientist 248 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:11,430 for Mars Science Laboratory from the 249 00:10:17,450 --> 00:10:14,450 California Institute of Technology John 250 00:10:20,450 --> 00:10:17,460 thanks George so what I'd like to do is 251 00:10:23,780 --> 00:10:20,460 take you back again to a few decades ago 252 00:10:25,310 --> 00:10:23,790 and if we can have the first graphic one 253 00:10:27,500 --> 00:10:25,320 of the reasons one of the motivating 254 00:10:29,900 --> 00:10:27,510 reasons for the Viking mission to land 255 00:10:32,570 --> 00:10:29,910 and look for evidence of life on the 256 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:32,580 surface of Mars was the discovery of the 257 00:10:36,770 --> 00:10:34,650 the channel network systems that you see 258 00:10:39,290 --> 00:10:36,780 here these have been studied for decades 259 00:10:41,690 --> 00:10:39,300 now I think it's safe to say that that 260 00:10:43,220 --> 00:10:41,700 that virtually the vast majority of the 261 00:10:45,340 --> 00:10:43,230 science community believes that these 262 00:10:48,380 --> 00:10:45,350 channels were cut by flowing water 263 00:10:50,660 --> 00:10:48,390 emerging from the surface subsurface may 264 00:10:52,490 --> 00:10:50,670 be flowing across the surface but it's 265 00:10:55,550 --> 00:10:52,500 these channel systems that originally 266 00:10:58,430 --> 00:10:55,560 attracted so much attention for Mars now 267 00:11:01,310 --> 00:10:58,440 and the more recent decade there have 268 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:01,320 been some spectacular discoveries that 269 00:11:04,490 --> 00:11:02,970 sort of fill out the rest of the story 270 00:11:07,490 --> 00:11:04,500 because if you look at these channels 271 00:11:10,190 --> 00:11:07,500 it's natural to ask if if 272 00:11:12,980 --> 00:11:10,200 was flowing where would it take all the 273 00:11:16,430 --> 00:11:12,990 materials that were eroded away to to 274 00:11:19,100 --> 00:11:16,440 create the canyons so if you go to the 275 00:11:21,170 --> 00:11:19,110 next display item what we see here is a 276 00:11:22,940 --> 00:11:21,180 Delta called a bruise wall Delta it was 277 00:11:26,420 --> 00:11:22,950 one of the potential landing sites for 278 00:11:28,580 --> 00:11:26,430 the mission and and it's at the end of 279 00:11:30,830 --> 00:11:28,590 one of these channel networks and so we 280 00:11:33,620 --> 00:11:30,840 see all the material that got eroded by 281 00:11:35,570 --> 00:11:33,630 water here being deposited in water as a 282 00:11:38,870 --> 00:11:35,580 delta that almost everybody can 283 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:38,880 recognize and and this is really amazing 284 00:11:43,010 --> 00:11:41,130 because in addition to this there was 285 00:11:45,500 --> 00:11:43,020 also the discovery of clay minerals here 286 00:11:48,170 --> 00:11:45,510 so we're beginning to see a more 287 00:11:50,810 --> 00:11:48,180 balanced picture of Mars one where you 288 00:11:53,930 --> 00:11:50,820 have source areas that represent the 289 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:53,940 interaction of water with rock to 290 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:56,010 produce sedimentary materials that 291 00:12:00,620 --> 00:11:58,170 contain alteration products like clays 292 00:12:03,020 --> 00:12:00,630 and then they get transported down river 293 00:12:05,330 --> 00:12:03,030 systems to form things like Delta's that 294 00:12:06,650 --> 00:12:05,340 would have accumulated in bodies of 295 00:12:08,870 --> 00:12:06,660 standing water and this is very 296 00:12:11,420 --> 00:12:08,880 attractive from a habitability point of 297 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:11,430 view and it creates the basis then for 298 00:12:17,300 --> 00:12:13,650 Mars Science Laboratory to have had a 299 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:17,310 very exciting landing site selection 300 00:12:21,530 --> 00:12:20,250 process so if we go to the next one now 301 00:12:24,530 --> 00:12:21,540 we're going to jump up here more 302 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:24,540 recently within the last seven years the 303 00:12:29,329 --> 00:12:27,210 discoveries by the rover Opportunity in 304 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:29,339 the Mars Exploration Rover mission and 305 00:12:34,100 --> 00:12:31,890 here we see a number of very important 306 00:12:36,860 --> 00:12:34,110 aspects that that take us into our 307 00:12:39,620 --> 00:12:36,870 understanding of modern Mars one is is 308 00:12:43,070 --> 00:12:39,630 that we see layered rock sedimentary 309 00:12:45,110 --> 00:12:43,080 rock and the sedimentary rock on Mars we 310 00:12:47,390 --> 00:12:45,120 view in an analogous way to sedimentary 311 00:12:50,660 --> 00:12:47,400 rocks on earth which are the principal 312 00:12:54,170 --> 00:12:50,670 repository for all the the records of 313 00:12:56,300 --> 00:12:54,180 life on Earth and while Mars Science 314 00:12:58,579 --> 00:12:56,310 Laboratory is not a life detection 315 00:13:01,130 --> 00:12:58,589 mission we are on a mission to to 316 00:13:03,650 --> 00:13:01,140 investigate the building blocks of life 317 00:13:06,350 --> 00:13:03,660 important chemical elements and also 318 00:13:09,470 --> 00:13:06,360 potentially look for organic compounds 319 00:13:11,630 --> 00:13:09,480 and when you have what a geologist calls 320 00:13:13,730 --> 00:13:11,640 a model like this where you can look at 321 00:13:16,460 --> 00:13:13,740 the rocks and see that you had ancient 322 00:13:18,490 --> 00:13:16,470 sand dunes environments where there was 323 00:13:20,300 --> 00:13:18,500 ancient groundwater and then 324 00:13:20,900 --> 00:13:20,310 environments where you had ancient 325 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:20,910 streams 326 00:13:25,460 --> 00:13:22,890 this gives you a whole diversity of 327 00:13:27,410 --> 00:13:25,470 potentially different habitats this is 328 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:27,420 just one example on Mars you can go back 329 00:13:31,370 --> 00:13:29,010 to the locations that Bethany was 330 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:31,380 talking about very ancient Mars and you 331 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:33,510 see a different type of geological 332 00:13:39,260 --> 00:13:36,410 history and a very different type of 333 00:13:41,390 --> 00:13:39,270 potentially habitable environments so 334 00:13:43,580 --> 00:13:41,400 we're just on the cusp of beginning to 335 00:13:45,620 --> 00:13:43,590 come up with a whole range of these 336 00:13:48,370 --> 00:13:45,630 possibilities for us to explore into the 337 00:13:52,010 --> 00:13:48,380 future okay so in the next one 338 00:13:53,450 --> 00:13:52,020 now we take us into as Bethany mentioned 339 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:53,460 there were the three eras where you went 340 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:55,650 from dominantly clays time when 341 00:14:00,260 --> 00:13:57,810 weathering alteration and water produced 342 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:00,270 clays to a time when alteration of water 343 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:02,730 produced a lot of sulfate minerals to a 344 00:14:07,430 --> 00:14:04,770 time when apparently there were not many 345 00:14:09,110 --> 00:14:07,440 hydrated minerals that were formed yet 346 00:14:11,570 --> 00:14:09,120 we still see the accumulation of 347 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:11,580 sedimentary materials and you might ask 348 00:14:16,070 --> 00:14:13,650 what do you learn about Mars in the 349 00:14:19,130 --> 00:14:16,080 absence of water or in the absence of a 350 00:14:21,140 --> 00:14:19,140 potentially habitable environment for 351 00:14:23,390 --> 00:14:21,150 life if it had evolved on Mars and this 352 00:14:26,090 --> 00:14:23,400 beautiful example of that you see these 353 00:14:27,860 --> 00:14:26,100 very well-organized strata this is like 354 00:14:30,500 --> 00:14:27,870 a heartbeat except this is the heartbeat 355 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:30,510 of the planets climate cycle so just 356 00:14:34,910 --> 00:14:32,130 like on earth we're very interested in 357 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:34,920 climate change on Mars we see this very 358 00:14:40,940 --> 00:14:37,890 rhythmic alternation of layers that 359 00:14:43,070 --> 00:14:40,950 creates a really spectacular record of 360 00:14:45,260 --> 00:14:43,080 past climate change on Mars and then 361 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:45,270 that takes us to the era that Bethany 362 00:14:49,100 --> 00:14:46,650 talked about first where Mars is 363 00:14:51,770 --> 00:14:49,110 dominated more by ice and a very cold 364 00:14:54,170 --> 00:14:51,780 climate and atmospheric processes and 365 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:54,180 transport of sediments by wind rather 366 00:14:58,370 --> 00:14:56,850 than water so we see we can see in the 367 00:15:01,340 --> 00:14:58,380 rock record these these different 368 00:15:04,130 --> 00:15:01,350 histories ok so now if we go to the next 369 00:15:06,170 --> 00:15:04,140 one what we see here is our destination 370 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:06,180 for Mars Science Laboratory this is Gale 371 00:15:11,290 --> 00:15:09,210 Crater you'll hear a lot about it 372 00:15:15,950 --> 00:15:11,300 tomorrow at the press briefing tomorrow 373 00:15:17,930 --> 00:15:15,960 there is a crater about 150 kilometers 374 00:15:20,090 --> 00:15:17,940 in diameter that's about as big as the 375 00:15:21,710 --> 00:15:20,100 Los Angeles basin surrounded by the 376 00:15:23,750 --> 00:15:21,720 mountains that ringed the Los Angeles 377 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:23,760 basin and right there in the middle of 378 00:15:28,580 --> 00:15:26,850 it is a mountain about five kilometers 379 00:15:31,220 --> 00:15:28,590 high that's as high as Mount Whitney 380 00:15:34,210 --> 00:15:31,230 which is the tallest mountain and in the 381 00:15:35,950 --> 00:15:34,220 lower 48 states and if you go from the 382 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:35,960 yellow dot which is in the center of our 383 00:15:40,150 --> 00:15:37,970 landing ellipse we have the ability to 384 00:15:44,500 --> 00:15:40,160 traverse in our mission through the 385 00:15:46,180 --> 00:15:44,510 first few hundred meters of strata that 386 00:15:48,130 --> 00:15:46,190 you see there and then eventually over 387 00:15:50,290 --> 00:15:48,140 an extended mission it might be possible 388 00:15:51,610 --> 00:15:50,300 to go to the top of that Mound but the 389 00:15:54,190 --> 00:15:51,620 important thing I wanted to say about 390 00:15:55,510 --> 00:15:54,200 the mound today to sort of walk in some 391 00:15:57,790 --> 00:15:55,520 of the points that we've been talking 392 00:16:00,400 --> 00:15:57,800 about at the base of the mound you see 393 00:16:03,250 --> 00:16:00,410 strata that are composed of clays and 394 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:03,260 sulfates as you go farther up the mound 395 00:16:08,170 --> 00:16:05,330 you see strata that are composed of 396 00:16:11,590 --> 00:16:08,180 dominantly sulfates and then as you get 397 00:16:14,110 --> 00:16:11,600 above you know the first 500 meters or 398 00:16:15,910 --> 00:16:14,120 so you then go into strata that don't 399 00:16:17,980 --> 00:16:15,920 have hydrated minerals they seem to be 400 00:16:23,230 --> 00:16:17,990 composed of these rhythmites from the 401 00:16:25,330 --> 00:16:23,240 drier time of Mars so in one location we 402 00:16:27,010 --> 00:16:25,340 can drive the rover through all these 403 00:16:29,350 --> 00:16:27,020 successive different environments and 404 00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:29,360 sample these various periods in the 405 00:16:33,310 --> 00:16:31,120 history of Mars that we've talked about 406 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:33,320 so I'll turn it back to George all right 407 00:16:37,900 --> 00:16:35,570 thanks very much we're ready now to take 408 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:37,910 questions so please give your name and 409 00:16:41,260 --> 00:16:39,770 affiliation when the microphone comes to 410 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:41,270 you and we'll start right here in the 411 00:16:48,430 --> 00:16:45,410 front hi Kent Cramer for Space Flight 412 00:16:49,870 --> 00:16:48,440 magazine for Bethany and anyone else who 413 00:16:51,910 --> 00:16:49,880 wants to answer please a couple of 414 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:51,920 questions can you describe the Clay's 415 00:16:56,860 --> 00:16:55,010 how widespread they are on Mars or and 416 00:17:00,070 --> 00:16:56,870 the sulfates are they very narrow or 417 00:17:01,690 --> 00:17:00,080 they're pretty widespread right so so I 418 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:01,700 should say that clays and sulfates are 419 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:02,690 something that that weren't even 420 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:06,890 discovered until until 2004 with the the 421 00:17:10,570 --> 00:17:08,810 Mars Express mission from Europe so 422 00:17:14,050 --> 00:17:10,580 they'd eluded detection so far and 423 00:17:16,540 --> 00:17:14,060 that's because the exposures where we're 424 00:17:17,710 --> 00:17:16,550 able to see them are very small and it 425 00:17:18,670 --> 00:17:17,720 makes sense if you think about the fact 426 00:17:19,900 --> 00:17:18,680 that they're ancient 427 00:17:23,140 --> 00:17:19,910 and because they're ancient they're 428 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:23,150 buried by later materials so it's so 429 00:17:26,380 --> 00:17:25,130 with this high spatial resolution we're 430 00:17:29,410 --> 00:17:26,390 able to see them and where do we see 431 00:17:31,180 --> 00:17:29,420 them so clays to the extent that we are 432 00:17:35,260 --> 00:17:31,190 able to figure it out they seem to be 433 00:17:38,170 --> 00:17:35,270 globally widespread but frequently 434 00:17:41,230 --> 00:17:38,180 buried and the way they're exposed often 435 00:17:42,730 --> 00:17:41,240 is is in impact craters where again we 436 00:17:44,860 --> 00:17:42,740 punched through the surface and and 437 00:17:47,380 --> 00:17:44,870 these clays are thrown out for us to be 438 00:17:47,890 --> 00:17:47,390 able to see them we also have a few 439 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:47,900 places 440 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:49,970 where tectonic activity has exposed a 441 00:17:55,570 --> 00:17:52,490 nice thick stratigraphic section with 442 00:17:59,350 --> 00:17:55,580 the clays but they do appear to Clay's 443 00:18:05,380 --> 00:17:59,360 do appear to be global the sulfates also 444 00:18:07,060 --> 00:18:05,390 are regionally global if that makes 445 00:18:09,490 --> 00:18:07,070 sense there are a few regions scattered 446 00:18:13,390 --> 00:18:09,500 throughout the planet where we see 447 00:18:15,340 --> 00:18:13,400 sulfates it appears and that some work 448 00:18:17,950 --> 00:18:15,350 on hydrologic modeling modeling ground 449 00:18:19,660 --> 00:18:17,960 water flow through Mars and orbital 450 00:18:21,610 --> 00:18:19,670 detections of sulfates are starting to 451 00:18:23,860 --> 00:18:21,620 converge or it looks like where we see 452 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:23,870 the sulfates are these zones it where 453 00:18:29,340 --> 00:18:25,610 it's predicted that ground waters would 454 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:29,350 be upwelling and reaching the surface 455 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:34,490 and for John could you tell me I think 456 00:18:40,420 --> 00:18:37,010 you said these channels you believe most 457 00:18:42,370 --> 00:18:40,430 are by water formed by water so you say 458 00:18:43,570 --> 00:18:42,380 that about Valles Marineris it's mostly 459 00:18:46,930 --> 00:18:43,580 water you don't think it's carbon 460 00:18:50,590 --> 00:18:46,940 dioxide and also how long is that 461 00:18:52,510 --> 00:18:50,600 distance from the yellow dot to the red 462 00:18:55,180 --> 00:18:52,520 dot how quickly could you drive the 463 00:18:57,730 --> 00:18:55,190 rover right a couple of questions there 464 00:18:59,410 --> 00:18:57,740 I think that you know for for a long 465 00:19:00,850 --> 00:18:59,420 time as long as people have seen the 466 00:19:03,130 --> 00:19:00,860 channels there's been a discussion about 467 00:19:06,610 --> 00:19:03,140 what the liquid was that it carved them 468 00:19:08,770 --> 00:19:06,620 out and and I as I said I think that 469 00:19:10,930 --> 00:19:08,780 this is now stabilized on water as being 470 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:10,940 the most likely material and that's been 471 00:19:14,770 --> 00:19:12,650 bolster recently by the discovery of 472 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:14,780 hydrated minerals that do occur as 473 00:19:19,810 --> 00:19:16,970 transport weathering products in these 474 00:19:21,730 --> 00:19:19,820 in these channels it's it's a it was a 475 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:21,740 prediction of that model it was observed 476 00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:23,570 independently and I think it Shores the 477 00:19:26,710 --> 00:19:25,280 whole thing up 478 00:19:28,120 --> 00:19:26,720 the second question about Valles 479 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:28,130 Marineris Valles Marineris is a 480 00:19:32,620 --> 00:19:29,930 different feature it's not produced by 481 00:19:34,570 --> 00:19:32,630 erosion it's dominantly produced by 482 00:19:36,940 --> 00:19:34,580 tectonic processes that involve big 483 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:36,950 crustal motions that drop blocks down 484 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:40,010 and at the base of Mount Valles 485 00:19:45,220 --> 00:19:42,650 Marineris you do get the successions of 486 00:19:47,530 --> 00:19:45,230 sulfates one of the attractions of Gale 487 00:19:50,050 --> 00:19:47,540 to us is that without being able to fly 488 00:19:51,550 --> 00:19:50,060 into Valles Marineris we capture a lot 489 00:19:53,500 --> 00:19:51,560 of the interest that you would get in 490 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:53,510 going to Valles Marineris because the 491 00:19:58,960 --> 00:19:56,690 the bottom flares in Gale Crater are 492 00:20:01,300 --> 00:19:58,970 composed dominantly of sulfates and they 493 00:20:03,340 --> 00:20:01,310 sit in a very low topographic 494 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:03,350 lower than the floor of Valles Marineris 495 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:05,930 so it's not the same as Valles Marineris 496 00:20:10,300 --> 00:20:07,970 but it's maybe as close as you can get 497 00:20:12,610 --> 00:20:10,310 and then the last question about the 498 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:12,620 distance you know our landing ellipse is 499 00:20:17,350 --> 00:20:15,530 about 20 kilometers in diameter so we 500 00:20:19,510 --> 00:20:17,360 would drive outside of the landing 501 00:20:22,150 --> 00:20:19,520 ellipse on the order of about 12 502 00:20:24,220 --> 00:20:22,160 kilometers to get to the first 503 00:20:28,210 --> 00:20:24,230 well-developed sulphate deposits in 504 00:20:34,930 --> 00:20:28,220 clays we have a question here in the 505 00:20:36,790 --> 00:20:34,940 back did you have a question Chris 506 00:20:40,660 --> 00:20:36,800 Hebert United television network 507 00:20:45,460 --> 00:20:40,670 I was wondering with the the recent 508 00:20:47,590 --> 00:20:45,470 discovery of shifting the sand dunes are 509 00:20:50,170 --> 00:20:47,600 you planning on using curiosity if 510 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:50,180 there's anything on board that you might 511 00:20:53,860 --> 00:20:52,010 be able to investigate further with the 512 00:20:59,380 --> 00:20:53,870 existing equipment that's already built 513 00:21:00,550 --> 00:20:59,390 into the Rover yeah that would be a good 514 00:21:01,930 --> 00:21:00,560 question to bring up again tomorrow 515 00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:01,940 because we'll have the principal 516 00:21:07,540 --> 00:21:04,370 investigator of the of the camera here 517 00:21:10,690 --> 00:21:07,550 and that's one of his his real interests 518 00:21:14,980 --> 00:21:10,700 and so we have the ability to to measure 519 00:21:16,690 --> 00:21:14,990 the wind speed on on curiosity what 520 00:21:19,540 --> 00:21:16,700 direction the wind is blowing in and 521 00:21:22,090 --> 00:21:19,550 then make measurements of the surface 522 00:21:23,770 --> 00:21:22,100 topography of the dunes and see if sand 523 00:21:28,330 --> 00:21:23,780 as is being transported we should be 524 00:21:30,300 --> 00:21:28,340 able to do that Marsha Associated Press 525 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:30,310 probably for dr. Maier but I'm not sure 526 00:21:36,190 --> 00:21:33,490 of the previous Mars missions the 527 00:21:38,380 --> 00:21:36,200 several dozen that there have been how 528 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:38,390 many besides this one have actually 529 00:21:43,630 --> 00:21:40,610 looked directly or indirectly at the 530 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:43,640 life issue and what have what have you 531 00:21:48,670 --> 00:21:45,730 learned so far that this will build upon 532 00:21:51,340 --> 00:21:48,680 well I actually like to call cure on 533 00:21:54,010 --> 00:21:51,350 curiosity the first astrobiology mission 534 00:21:55,660 --> 00:21:54,020 since Viking and basically that's 535 00:21:58,150 --> 00:21:55,670 because we're sending a gas 536 00:22:00,220 --> 00:21:58,160 chromatograph mass spectrometer which 537 00:22:02,290 --> 00:22:00,230 can look at look for organics and 538 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:02,300 characterize them and essentially it's 539 00:22:07,090 --> 00:22:04,730 similar much better but similar to the 540 00:22:08,890 --> 00:22:07,100 instrument that was sent on Viking here 541 00:22:10,930 --> 00:22:08,900 there are huge advantages that you can 542 00:22:13,410 --> 00:22:10,940 Rove to wherever you think is the best 543 00:22:16,900 --> 00:22:13,420 thing to measure 544 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:16,910 there's been this gaps in essentially in 545 00:22:26,260 --> 00:22:21,770 your mind Phoenix had a gas Cremona gas 546 00:22:28,660 --> 00:22:26,270 chromatograph mass spec on it that was 547 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:28,670 able could have measured organics if 548 00:22:33,790 --> 00:22:30,730 there was you know a sufficient amount 549 00:22:37,030 --> 00:22:33,800 but it couldn't move around and is also 550 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:37,040 on a the northern Pollard layer terrain 551 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:41,210 so in many ways it's it's goal was 552 00:22:47,890 --> 00:22:43,250 appointed more toward understanding the 553 00:22:51,340 --> 00:22:47,900 formation of the layer terrain and what 554 00:22:53,110 --> 00:22:51,350 the polar areas are like so curiosity I 555 00:22:56,230 --> 00:22:53,120 think is really the first one since 556 00:22:59,920 --> 00:22:56,240 biking to approach the life question now 557 00:23:04,390 --> 00:22:59,930 I should be clear that it doesn't have a 558 00:23:05,860 --> 00:23:04,400 life detection instrument on it in the 559 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:05,870 sense that a camera is not a life 560 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:07,490 detection instrument unless something 561 00:23:15,250 --> 00:23:11,570 hops in front of it so the capability of 562 00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:15,260 the of Sam the sample analysis at Mars 563 00:23:19,330 --> 00:23:17,120 which is the gas chromatograph mass spec 564 00:23:21,820 --> 00:23:19,340 is that it can look at organics and 565 00:23:24,250 --> 00:23:21,830 characterize them and make you more 566 00:23:28,330 --> 00:23:24,260 interested in Mars and what what secrets 567 00:23:29,950 --> 00:23:28,340 that might hold but unless you're 568 00:23:30,970 --> 00:23:29,960 extremely lucky it's not going to tell 569 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:30,980 you whether or not you've found evidence 570 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:36,170 of life ask another question um what is 571 00:23:40,090 --> 00:23:38,050 it about Morris it makes it so 572 00:23:42,970 --> 00:23:40,100 treacherous getting there so many 573 00:23:45,730 --> 00:23:42,980 missions have failed including one in 574 00:23:48,820 --> 00:23:45,740 Earth orbit right now what what what is 575 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:48,830 it about Mars that makes it so tricky so 576 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:52,970 difficult to get to one one one thirty 577 00:24:00,820 --> 00:23:58,010 is gremlins the other it's just I'm not 578 00:24:04,030 --> 00:24:00,830 sure why we've been that unlucky and it 579 00:24:07,150 --> 00:24:04,040 may be that early on in in planetary 580 00:24:11,770 --> 00:24:07,160 exploration Mars was a target such that 581 00:24:13,180 --> 00:24:11,780 as our space faring agencies we're 582 00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:13,190 coming up to speed to how to do 583 00:24:16,690 --> 00:24:14,960 planetary missions their first target 584 00:24:20,530 --> 00:24:16,700 was Mars so there's a lot of failures 585 00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:20,540 early on and just you know just with how 586 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:22,910 two rockets work how do you get there 587 00:24:26,290 --> 00:24:25,730 so I think there was a big learning 588 00:24:29,770 --> 00:24:26,300 curve 589 00:24:32,020 --> 00:24:29,780 and now we're just running into Mars is 590 00:24:34,510 --> 00:24:32,030 difficult and so many things have to go 591 00:24:36,460 --> 00:24:34,520 right for a mission to work but we have 592 00:24:43,450 --> 00:24:36,470 a much better track record than we did 593 00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:43,460 in in the 70s dan dan billow from w e sh 594 00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:49,520 t v-- on the the time-lapse photo you 595 00:24:55,090 --> 00:24:51,500 had that looked so much like surface 596 00:24:58,330 --> 00:24:55,100 water give me a ballpark estimate if you 597 00:25:02,340 --> 00:24:58,340 can on how long that might persist hours 598 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:02,350 or days and if you have any idea and 599 00:25:07,570 --> 00:25:04,250 would you discuss a little bit more 600 00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:07,580 about but to what extent the planet has 601 00:25:14,980 --> 00:25:10,130 kind of a subsurface layer of ice do you 602 00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:14,990 think that that's the case so water 603 00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:18,110 liquid water is not stable on the on the 604 00:25:22,780 --> 00:25:21,200 surface of Mars today so so as for how 605 00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:22,790 long it sticks around well it's how long 606 00:25:26,410 --> 00:25:24,320 it takes for it to evaporate so we're 607 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:26,420 probably talking on the order of a few 608 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:29,210 minutes but what happens when when that 609 00:25:33,220 --> 00:25:30,770 water is at the surface it causes all 610 00:25:34,810 --> 00:25:33,230 these noticeable geological changes that 611 00:25:38,490 --> 00:25:34,820 we that we can then track but we're 612 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:38,500 talking really short periods of time but 613 00:25:45,610 --> 00:25:43,730 those features form and lengthen over a 614 00:25:47,350 --> 00:25:45,620 Mars it starts you know kind of in the 615 00:25:50,020 --> 00:25:47,360 spring goes for the summer and then they 616 00:25:52,110 --> 00:25:50,030 disappear in the fall and this happened 617 00:25:55,930 --> 00:25:52,120 on successive seasons 618 00:25:59,500 --> 00:25:55,940 so although liquid water at the surface 619 00:26:01,780 --> 00:25:59,510 may be very short time the moisture 620 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:01,790 that's causing those features to form 621 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:06,170 last over a whole season and at a 622 00:26:10,780 --> 00:26:08,450 subsurface layer of ice or water what 623 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:10,790 are your thoughts on that yeah the 624 00:26:14,740 --> 00:26:12,410 thought is that it's it's a subsurface 625 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:14,750 layer of ice it's probably the most 626 00:26:20,110 --> 00:26:18,410 likely source for this water and one of 627 00:26:22,270 --> 00:26:20,120 the things that may be causing it to 628 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:22,280 melt periodically is the presence of 629 00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:24,290 salts which just like you you throw salt 630 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:25,520 on the road in the winter to get the 631 00:26:28,540 --> 00:26:27,530 snow to melt in those areas where 632 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:28,550 there's a particularly high 633 00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:30,410 concentration of chloride salts you you 634 00:26:33,340 --> 00:26:31,910 also those may be the areas were 635 00:26:34,990 --> 00:26:33,350 preferentially you get these slope 636 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:35,000 streaks to form over the course of the 637 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:37,050 season 638 00:26:42,590 --> 00:26:39,570 and just one more I'm trying to get an 639 00:26:43,910 --> 00:26:42,600 idea if you have an idea of what the 640 00:26:45,740 --> 00:26:43,920 extent of that might be is there a 641 00:26:49,850 --> 00:26:45,750 notion of that water or a little bit or 642 00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:49,860 a lot or what you know well if we're 643 00:26:58,550 --> 00:26:54,480 talking ice and we're we're considering 644 00:27:00,950 --> 00:26:58,560 the entire subsurface of Mars there's 645 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:00,960 probably at least a shallow seas worth 646 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:05,370 of water in ice form beneath the surface 647 00:27:08,990 --> 00:27:06,810 but when we're talking about how much is 648 00:27:11,690 --> 00:27:09,000 available in liquid form it's only these 649 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:11,700 these ephemeral short-lived slope 650 00:27:17,420 --> 00:27:13,170 streaks that appear to be occurring over 651 00:27:22,610 --> 00:27:17,430 the course of the season anyone have any 652 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:22,620 follow-ups all right in that event just 653 00:27:27,650 --> 00:27:24,450 a little bit of a programming note we 654 00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:27,660 have to Mars briefings tomorrow at one 655 00:27:31,370 --> 00:27:29,370 o'clock we'll have briefing on looking 656 00:27:34,130 --> 00:27:31,380 for signs of life in the universe and 657 00:27:36,170 --> 00:27:34,140 then following at two o'clock will be 658 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:36,180 our Mars Science Laboratory science 659 00:27:41,420 --> 00:27:38,010 briefing so if you're joining us for 660 00:27:42,770 --> 00:27:41,430 those 1 & 2 p.m. Eastern Time and that